Inspire & Challenge Leaders to achieve their greatest personal potential

October 4, 2021
Ross Thornley Feat. John D. Anderson

Show notes

Why A Legacy Matters: “If I take 30 steps linearly, I get to 30. If I take 30 steps exponentially, I get to a billion.” That’s from futurist and thought-leader Ray Kurzweil.

One of the key benefits of John's Legacy Map is training growth minded leaders to think exponentially instead of linearly — perhaps for their first time ever. This paradigm shift is an essential skill in our age of blistering-fast advances in technology.

Ross and John talk about life purposes, life transitions, our future self, adapting, 'Scaling Up', working at IMB, entrepreneurship, getting to the top, Earl Nightingale, focusing on work and retirement. The pair also discuss  creating value, big ideas to simple models, embracing life, perusing challenges, new experiences, the beauty of ageing, unplugging, loving yourself and jet skiing.


  • 01:25 A little of John's background and purpose
  • 05:25 The experience and highlights of being involved with 'Scaling Up' and 'Verne Harnish - Mastering the Rockefeller Habits'
  • 11:01 Key transitions that leaders of 'Scaling Up' had to go through to become what it is now
  • 21:36 Observations in others that can help leaders in this fast pace of living
  • 29:45 John's legacy map - retirement as a concept and when in life do we stop contributing
  • 42:04 What was the last thing John did for the first time

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Here’s to those who see the world differently.

They’re the ones who are brave, ambitious and experimental. While some might see risk and disruption – we see hope.

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