Master of Business Leadership Program



Decoding AQ with Ross Thornley Feat. Phil Johnson

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Phil is an executive coach who has been assisting executives and organizations to bet on themselves by developing their emotional intelligence.

Helping Executives Achieve Career, Personal & Corporate Success, Master of Business Leadership Program and Emotional Intelligence Pattern "Spotter" with a Career Revenue of $1.5 Billion.  

MBL program alumni are in the US, Canada, UK, Europe, Japan, Germany, Bosnia, Africa, Australia, the Middle East and Saudi Arabia.   

Ross and Phil talk about meaningful life, change, coaching, passion, disconnecting, starting from zero, working with purpose, providing value, emotional intelligence, fight or flight, anxiety, old battling new habits, emotional labour, conflict, energy, IQ, emotional connections and adaptability.  The pair also discuss primal resistance,  Martin Goldsmith, leavening comfort zones, fear, motivation, the Stanford marshmallow experiment, resistance to change, unconscious energy, social media, giving away energy, breathing, the present moment, ego and wisdom.


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  • 01:29 Phil's promise to himself back in 1968
  • 03:55 Getting into coaching
  • 06:12 Phil's first client
  • 07:52 Changing trajectories
  • 11:36 Timeless elements to deal with future problems
  • 17:12 Apple Inc
  • 21:45 Insuring longevity
  • 28:21 Connecting on an emotional level
  • 30:43 Identifying what we want
  • 32:46 Getting what we want and refining it
  • 37:44 The challenges of short and long termism
  • 44:42 Emotional physics
  • 49:58 Practical elements we can do
  • 53:51 The last time Phil did something for the first time

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